intentionally getting eaten by groal does a LOT of damage. i figured out that after he spits you out he doesnt do an attack and lets you get a full heal. the dash -> trobbio mirror heal combo works every time because he always backs away from you. with this strat (starting on the right) you can always shove him against the wall and get him to do a spit attack. you can easily 2 cycle him with this strategy before he barely does anything, very reliable. you want to spear right before entering, as you get 5 silk back, so make sure youre only doing this when on full silk. the fight here is 23s which is ridiculous
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