#strats

#widow 19

jicoworker

known but upslashing diagonal bells to avoid and deal damage is quite useful

2 things: first not doing the fast break on the first wall lines up for me to just go and not have to time going under the guy
second thank you to nebula for telling me, sprinting has a lower hitbox so you can go under it earlier compared to walking

doing 2needles and a silkspear after hitting the lever makes greeding this quitout kinda free
i would still recommend trying this a few times in ils to get a feeling for it (i dont wanna be blamed for quitting out too early :buh:)

i am not to be held responsible for lost paces if you are doing this without practice in runs

Ranalie

you can pogo downdash through the second big guy to not take damage. you should do it from the left side and pogo at the very last moment. this is hard to do, but you dont lose much attempting and failing it since you would have taken damage there anyway and its maybe slightly slower than immediately downdashing into damage tank.

Ranalie

upslash walljump from platform in widow memory, should be faster than mantling

you can VERY easily fit in a spear in this vulnerability window for widow instead of a nail, i havent missed this once in runs, the window is very large. particularly useful if you have 8 silk because it allows you to do another silk spear when she spawns in for her second phase

Megamin (#1 Mist Hater)

I'll throw this in here:
You can nail Widow 4 times + spear on dash

Apparently you can hit widow for a short period of time slightly after the fake death. Im not sure if you could slash twice with good timing or maybe fit in a spear or smth. Regardless, there's no reason to not slash her once at the very least.

[EJEM] Intramint

you can hit her twice at the start if youre very fast

You can stagger with dash attack > spear and still get 2 nail hits and another spear, pretty consistent as stagger builds but doesn't trigger during her swipes/running attacks
If spear recovery isn't cancelled by the wall you can only get 1 nail hit but that spacing is unlikely

Asits61

you can dashslash for a very consistent scream skip for widow https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxKLRMXpT884IGvrfPCApizXXT3Qhlg-av

MattStrats

not sure if this is known or if it was thought on but, if you happen to have spare silk, you can position yourself in one side of the room, do 4 slashes then spear (start the slashes as soon as she goes off screen) to punish her phase transition. This is pretty lenient from my testing, you can be a little early or a little late, not too much tho

Yurong01
  • Low running atk: 3 hits + spear
  • Lunge and slashes: 4 hits + spear
JackmanMarcus ๐Ÿ’™

If not going for p2 scream skip you can do this setup of 5 needle hits into spear on 6 to get a free spear when she comes back. Works for a dash attack too if you don't have enough silk, but it's harder to get reliably, worst case you end up right next to her so you can start hitting asap

JackmanMarcus ๐Ÿ’™

Pogo into dash avoids landing on the ledge, saving 0.2

HCDarkNight

Widow Scream Skip. Compared to the strategy I posted last time, this strategy may be simpler and have a higher success rate

Toby (tRavage)

Widow Scream Skip in a Run, but its rng, cause of the Bell https://www.twitch.tv/travage_/clip/GoldenWealthyHumanBigBrother-2AAmILBW2DAnn3ev

HCDarkNight

Widow's scream skip. I think this is a relatively stable strategy.

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scream skip for phase 2