I've seen many ppl struggle with this epogo, when in reality its very lenient and can become very consistent with some practice. In this post I'll be explaining what goes into making the skip works in the hopes that ppl can improve at it. First of all, here's a vid of me doing the skip many times in a row to show what kind of variance can be expected and still have the trick work.
In order to perform the skip you want to hardfall and do a full jump shortly after regaining control (this isn't super tight, so its best to not greed it too much, as you can't buffer the jump out of the hardfall). You want to stop holding left a fair bit before the left wall (to ensure you don't go on top of it) and then start holding left again once you are safely past the ledge. I find that slashing when i reach this mushroom in the foreground to start heading right setps up the spore pretty well (the spore bounces on the wall and then follows you left quite well past the wall, its very important that this is the case). You then want to pogo at mid height (too low or too high can make the trick a little more akward, but its not too tight) and start holding left inmediatly. After this point you want to focus on not bonking the ceiling after the pogo, so you want to use your fbs to gain as much distance as possible (also not very tight, but imagine it as some sort of fb skip). Once you are past the right wall (assuming you didn't bonk on the ceiling) you can start holding right for a bit to ensure you dmg tank. Nearly any dmg tank at this point will allow you to clear the gap (in the vid im at 300fps and i have no problem clearing the gap), so you really just want to make sure you don't dodge the explosion.
LP epogo post number 67676767 but maybe it can be useful to someone, i didn't really like any of the other setups much so i labbed this one
this has the common start with dashing towards the sporg at the start and upslashing it, then i buffer another dash off the platform when i land there. I then land on the left mushroom in the background, do one minihop and then jump towards the pogoable mushroom and pogo on the left side of it. If you pogo too high/too far right, you will get launched into the sporg, you can react to being high by holding left more, so that you end up to the left of the sporg, which is usually savable.
be ready to tank the explosion if you think you will not make it up otherwise, quite often you can save attempts that would otherwise fail by tanking the explosion
Alternative to Nebula's setup that uses buffered inputs for the timing/positioning. Some notes:
This loses at most 0.1s to a fully greeded version of this, but realistically will go even with other run setups like the visual cue Nebula posted
The dash after the drop before the upslashes needs to be neutral to lure the spore a bit to the right to avoid running into it after the mushroom pogo
For the mushroom pogo, I hold right out of the dash into the wall and start holding left at the same time as the pogo. Switching to holding left too late can cause you to run into the spore
The timing here works out so that hitting the spore as soon as you're low enough to fit under the ledge greeds the spore height well
I tend to go neutral after the explosion to make sure the pogo reaches
This is a list of epogo setups for latest patch. This is not meant to be comprehensive, but rather to include the most common setups used by many people and/or good starting points. I didn't include any 3fb setups because they are slower in soul collection and not easier than 2fb ones
These setups are generally harder than 1fb but not faster. Mainly used in ibaldur routes. At the time of writing, 0fb are still being labbed, so I'll provide a tentative list below that will probably become outdated soon.
In case you miss epogo while being full soul, this is a pretty good back up. I pretty much jump slightly after hearing the sporg fire and then for the big jump you can slash at the same time/slightly after pressing jump.
If you have 2 soul after failing epogo, you can full jump right away after reaching the platform, upslash the sporg and drop off the platform asap, then continue as shown here. Its a bit tighter ime, but def possible
Consistent alternative to ouipogo for routes without fireball. Pretty easy , you wanna upslash the spore to explode it. Ouipogo has a low chance to send you the wrong way, so this eliminates that possibility and is the same speed. For reference, about 0.45 faster than the classic epogo and 0.35 slower than a good firepogo. The visual cue is to walk off when the spore gets to that mushroom in the background. play around with it a little bit because the way you pogo the mushrooms matters for the timing
Very simple and easy setup for lp epogo. Full jump slightly to the left as soon as you touch the platform, then fall right to the mushroom. Use mushroom pogo to move to the middle of the platform and wall (make sure not to go too far left or the spore will bounce). The dash after is super lenient, you can go pretty low and it will still work. The trick has been very consistent for me in practice and the timings are all lenient. The setup is dependent on sporg being asleep so if you miss but still have soul you need to do a backup (such as 2nd video) to get the setup again.
Apparently i didnt post this in strats when I found it a while back but this one (which i call cooperrekcahpogo because it's based on a combination of my old setup and cooper's setup) is imo the easiest LP epogo setup by far. Anyone who's still doing my old setup should switch to this one. Start the dashes when you hear the sporg spawn, there's no need for visual cues or anything, and like with my old setup the timing for the dash is really easy because the bonk on the platform slows your vertical momentum.
I've been messing with double dash 1 fb epogo and Ive found it way easier to do 2 fbs instead of just 1. The inputs arent super presice and there is a lot of wiggle room. If you are taking dmg as you are pogoing the spore you can try to dash closer to the ceiling and/or moving forward after pogoing to get further. If you detonate the spore after bouncing in the mushroom try delaying the second nail slash in the set up a bit less or try pogoing the bouncy mushroom a little later. The height of the last dash can also be slightly modified as well as adjusting/removing the small delay inbetween the nail slashes in the setup if your having problems with it in general. Also, I recommend putting yourself against the wall of the block at the beginning and letting go of any directional input until after the 3rd dash and letting go of them again after the 1st fb unless you are missing the sporg of getting hit by the explosion as mentiones earlier.
fast lp epogo (you're not pogoing the explosion but sure) with dash and vs, this was done at 50 fps, if higher is possible it's pretty tricky, the pogo off the bouncy mushroom is fairly precise because you have to be very low and left
Forgot to post this when i found it a while back. Easiest epogo i've come found by far; dash into the wall when the sporg goes over the circled mushroom in the background, fall right and pogo off the bouncy mushroom so that you bonk into the platform, then dash 2fb pogo
Epogo strat i found (this might exist already in that case sorry) that is fast and looks cool i find it easy to do because there's no waiting to it, you just go through the motions.
dash off as soon as you land, neutral off the wall, walk left to the far left mushroom, turn back to the bouncies, bounce off leftward, fireball, pogo spore. It's hard but as i said if you get the rhythm it should be pretty ok. main thing to note is that you just need to focus on dashing high enough after the mushroom bounce
Another explosion pogo for 1 fireball epogo, this one should be the more easy/consistent, everything is bufferable. Neutral dash from the little shroom on the right, dash off the platform as soon as possible and move to the left of the two shrooms on the bottom then jump to the bouncy shroom.
same as above, but turn around to save 0.1 and pogo the explosion instead, also looks cooler, and is slightly more lenient, as you can see in the first example theres no way i could be that off of the original fireball epogo setup and still make it
I hate cp epogo as much as anybody else. I kept on struggling continually with calli/alli pogo and making sure the spore didn't bonk, so I arrived at this setup. Idk if anyone else has too, didn't see it anywhere.
Basically you dash as soon as you see the spore, once you hit the ground walk right and jump pogo the mushroom, and then hover. More similar to the original one fb setup than anything else, except everything works out of neutral dashes and very easy timings.
Edit: you can still get one hit of soul with this, but you forfeit hit number 2, and it also does work even if the sporgs awake in case you're doing it as a backup or you missed
Troubleshooting: make sure you're not dashing as soon as you hit the ground, but instead when you see the spore, if you're bouncing into the spore, you might be walking too late or dashing too late, if the sporg is bonking on the middle square, you're dashing too early or walking too early, overall its fairly lenient, so even if you're succeeding, you might still have your center for the trick off balance
On the epogo trend, an adaption of CC’s earlier post I found in my search for brain off setups, where you literally can buffer every single input, no waiting...
I was messing around with 1fb epogo earlier and found this setup easier and a bit more comfy. Idk if anyone has seen or used it before, but I can remove it if it is already known.
Variation of the damage boost variations of epogo (Ouipogo, Sawayoshi's pogo, etc) that uses hardfall to time everything. Discovered accidentally trying to get fireball epogo.
fast epogo strat that utilizes knockback to get you under the ledge. variant of fireb0rn's fireball epogo. consistent, run-viable. slightly faster than fireball epogo due to soul collection but more risky, as you take 2 damage attempting it. useful in virtually any category, perhaps not worth in categories that go to city through city crest right after.
(recorded w/ timescale and sped up for 60fps viewing pleasure)
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